Unbelievable, astounding science-based, logical, deductive and super-intellectual responses from the NASA paid political agents proving NASA’s integrity and “science”.

The “points” and “logic” of these perfectly sound and witty comments has sent me reeling, feeling lost, beaten, alone and drifting in the world. I am now quite certain, with the irrefutable points these intelligence superstars have made, that my view of the world has changed.

First up to bat, Chris Nation. Chrissy’s words of wit:

“Yes…very funny indeed…”

Can anyone tell us to what chris nation is referring?

Second batter, Art Gilles:

“bite down harder”

Wow, another astounding point made in favor of globe-earth theory. I am suffering, sweltering with embarrassment at how silly my scientific methodology is compared to the ….dare I say, gawd-like talent evinced by bolshevik-dick, arty.

Third bolshevik-dick, I mean, third batter, daniel d. smith. May I add, so precious is little cutie’s lie it is funny dick-dan writes. Dan-dick’s comment:

“Watch it again and start to really look at the video. The guy in red you can clearly see is an edited video but some conspiracy nutjob forget to edit out the wire as you can see it floating which means he would not have “dropped” that thing that fast.

It’s all edited to disprove nasa for the narrative of a flat earth.”

“and start to really look….”? Dick-daniel is just too lost from reality to even get language close. Did dick write… “Start to…”? Why not just simply go to the NASA website and get the source? Deflect and distract, dick-daniel, the bolshevik sub-intelligent goon “leader”. LOL. Danielsan-dick is the leader of the goon squad, and there are more.

More from me, intellect connected to gawd…

hahahahaha, dick-daniel, digging and digging, running while he sets his air on fire with anger, like the others. No picture of earth from “space”…., NOT ONE, EVER, just dig and lie, and distract and lie, and deflect and lie and lie and lie and lie. What a loser!

Can somebody verify the source of the video in question….is NOT, NAAAAAAAAAWT a plane(t) earth edit? Doesn’t that video come from NASA itself, and danny-dick knows it and LIES like a filthy bolshevik-whore!

D’oh, did daniel bolshevik-dick forget that very, VERRRRRRY important fact, FAAAAAAAACT? 

I got your back d-man. See your profile up at my site, giving you all the props you deserve.

Conspiracy….? Too funny. Only loser libs, progressive bolsheviks, and globe-earth theorists accuse others of conspiracy. And so what! THAT very vid, the one dicky-dan claims is edited by a “flat-earther” is the one posted at NASA. Let me repeat that for all investigating and those who want to know the depth of the disgusting sub-human bolshevik scum, globe-earth theorist daniel-dick bolshevik: THE VERY SAME ONE POSTED ON THE NASA SITE.

Three strikes boys. You’re outta here!

Send the next three goons. A song comes to mind…”Send in the Clowns” Next line, “…don’t bother, they’re here.


Greg Davis: “you’re not a scientist. I’ve already shut you down effortlessly. You’re just a lonely guy looking to feel important. I know your type very well. I study it. If you actually want to talk about something real, our deal still stands. I will reward you with information on one point, and a fun sticker, for every direct question you engage on-topic with a direct answer. If you’re not up for that, or simply cannot, then don’t bother speaking again. This is a discussion forum, designed to facilitate intelligent conversation about specific topics relating to the shape of the earth. It’s not a free-for-all to perpetuate insults and hate by miserable cockroaches. That is all”

My reply:

A legend in your own mind. Shut me down, with what, CGI and drawings? How would you know I am not a scientist when you do not know the first thing about experimentation, scientific methodology, or even the language of science? You are morally and cause-and-effect backward. 

How do you presume to know I am a lonely guy? Who the hell do you think you are? You trailer-trash loser presumptuous lying piece of rat crap.

You have nothing, not even a real profile. What did you provide that shut me down? Make a point, loser! How many laboratory experiments have you engineered and conducted? You can’t even speak science terminology you are so uselessly uneducated. Well, I have a pic of your profile and will publish it with your stupid words and my reply. Not even sure what loser point you think you made, but the fundamentals escape your limited lying mind. There is no science when there is no data, no observaion, and without an actual photo there is no beginning of science for globe-theory.

Globe-theory cannot even be called that until an observation is made, and there is nothing, and you know it you lying treasonous bolshevik bastard.

Can you not wrap your little mind around that reality, or are you that sick and twisted to lie to such sick extent? Wait for it, wait for it:


Barnett: “The earth’s shape is not a theory. it’s been known for millenia and has been quantified to closer and closer tolerances as time and scientific advances progress. FE? Bwahaa…. It’s nonsensical drivel..or dribble for those that foam it out their mouthes.”

Scores and scores of fake profiles all doing nothing but post fake-science, amazingly all in favor of globe-theory earth. Something is surely going on that brings so many ignorant goons together to propagate so many, and all the same, lies.

My Reply:

Known by whom? What tolerances? Barnett has no idea, surely regurgitating spew from his/her/its master handler. Again, Roger, tell us, what tolerances? What is the margin of error? Tell us what scientific progress it is that uses CGI and drawings to make a fake photo of earth, when nobody has ever been “in space”? You lying pos. Known by whom, Aristotle, Heracles, Herodotus, Jason and the Argonauts, Dustin the wind? What a loser! Nobody has known for millennia. What a sewage-sucking fraud! It is that simple.

For all reading this, by many things bolshevik-dick wrote, you can surely see how ignorant and un-scientific everything of dick-roger’s comment is. But, especially and specifically obvious is this: how does one “quantify” something that is not a quantity? 

Known for millennia? Who are you trying to fool? Even the dumbest of dumb, you anti-science, scientific methodology retards cannot be so stupid to totally ignore reality AND history. Are you really so stupid and grotesquely, fat, ugly and lying!

Your stupid pretense (millennia) is not only a stretch of gross magnitude, considering the Bible has been around for millennia, but even you, a real pseudo-person cannot be that stupid to ignore the reality that globe-theory is a theory. Do you realize that when someone says a word they mean it, like theory means theory?

But it is okay. I get where you are coming from and I have a picture of your “profile” and will post it to my site, with my reply, a shit-kicking for you for all to see, and beyond so others can see just how fake and politically motivated, sub-human you filthy bolshevik NASA agents are. You lie like a rat you filthy rotten agent provocateur.


“China has a missile that was previously thought impossible”

Yes, China has a missile nobody thought could be created, but there is evidence it can exist; that it could have been created. This evidence is observation that other missiles exist and technology applied and working in other areas has a potential to be applied to create supersonic missile technology.

This is the first phase of scientific methodology: observation.

The theory of flying bombs is more than just theory. “Flying” bombs exist. We know it. In science terminology, we call this observation. Predicting, another phase of science, is extending already observed realities using existing technology, not theory. This makes an extension of known observations possible and believable.

This extension is not possible where there is no observation such as  fake disciplines of climate changeling and “space” travel/globe-theory.

Again, theory based on theory is bad theory and can predict absolutely nothing except silly imagination.

This fertilization of imagination-based theory is the core of modeling in “science” today, particularly climate changeling and globe-earth theory and “space” travel/globe-theory.

If all one can produce is unobservable imagination of modeling and fake theory based on unsubstantiated theory, then one has nothing. When theory is based on theory, there is no evidence from which a reality can be extrapolated. This is climate changeling today, and globe-eath/space speculation.

All one need to do, to observe the unobservable climate-changeling and “space travel/globe-theory theories, is to pay attention to the words of those who promote: “models”.


Let us look at an object directly out to sea from a beach position.. There is a problem that most do not see. If the circumference of the earth is 24,901 miles, then a one degree deviation would be 69.17 miles, 360 degrees making up a whole circle, or globe.

Every experiment shown on youtube and elsewhere, that I have seen, states that there are numerous degrees of “drop” within a much smaller distance. The ratio is 1 degree to every 69.17 miles. For every 69.17 miles you travel there is only a one degree deviation, or drop.

Can you see a one degree deviation at almost 70 miles?

My observation is that, at 70 miles the drop would be one degree. One degree divided by 360 degrees produces a ratio of 0.00278 to one. So if a ship is 200 feet tall only 0.00278 of it should disappear: 0.556 feet, at 69.71 miles.

A building of 500 feet, at a full 69.71 miles out, such as one used in one of many observations, should drop out of sight by only 0.00278 X 500 or about 1.389 feet.

When many explain that such and such a thing on the horizon drops due to curvature, they use a ratio from nowhere. 

In the following youtube video:

the producer claims much of a wind turbine 29 nautical miles from shore has been lost from sight, as he presents, almost half of its height. I am astonished at how anti-mathematical this producer is. He claims he is looking at a wind turbine that is 29 nautical miles from the beach on which he stands. 29 nautical miles converts to 33.35 miles. At 33.35 miles the curvature of the earth would be less than one half of one degree: 33.35/69.17, or .482 degrees.

Even if the windmill is as tall as he claims it could be, 180 meters, or 590.4 feet, at less than one half of one percent of drop, the windmill should only disappear 590 feet X 0.00278 feet per 69.17 mile distance, X .482 + .7864 feet. This is about 9 inches.

We see a lot more distortion than a mere drop, over 33.35 miles, 

It is impossible that a distance of 33.15 miles produces such a drastic drop in elevation. Clearly there is a different variable involved.

If we were to triangulate and look at a ship moving away from a point would we se the tilt of the mast way from the beach location, for example, due to curvature? Incidentally, I have never seen a study or experiment that tests this.

If I were to stand 33.35 miles away from the point on the beach in a line perpendicular to the line of sight of the original position, would I be able to see the mast tilt away from the beach? The distance I would be making my observation would be much more, but only due to angle of observation. Would I now see less than .482 of a degree of tilt from well over 33.35 miles? The hypotenuse would be 1.414 times the distance from the original beach point or 47.16 miles. How could one tell with the tossing of waves and ship?

If I could see that far I would only be looking for a 33.35/69.71 ratio of one degree of dip, or tilt of the mast. It is imperceptible. Furthermore, the angle is less due to the angle away from direct observation, which would be directly to the side of the windmill.

In the producer’s example he shows the windmill clearly losing half its height. Impossible.


JR Emiston:

I never call flat earthers conspiracy theorists. At best, I call them ill-informed. Many, not all, misunderstand scientific terms, such as ‘theory.’ Many, not all, are also guilty of poor English, which diminishes their (already severely limited) credibility

My Reply:

Does JR mean poor grammar? It appears JR has less of an understanding of communication than he would have others believe. Theory is not a term, rather a word. I could just as easily write that globers have no understanding of some scientific terms, as does JR, but JR totally missed the whole picture. Science is not just a few words, and theory is not scientific in the least. The whole picture is referred to as scientific methodology, and theory is only a beginning, wondering upon observation of change. Theory leads to hypothesis which is then proved or disproved by the whole process of isolating a variable, measuring before and after, setting up test and experimental conditions, collating, and interpreting data. Theory is totally void of data. Furthermore, when someone uses the term conspiracy theory, besides being clear they do not know what it is, they admit they have nothing except insult and a poor, worn-out cliché, a brazen attempt to distract from lack of data, measurements, the whole scientific process. It is an attempt to make ignorant believers of others. It is wrong, immoral, dishonest, and self-destructive. Those who “create” data by lying and insulting with name-calling, such as conspiracy theorist, are liars, not to be believed, trusted, or given a shred of credibility. Conspiracy theory name-calling is very much like crying wolf. It leaves the cryer vulnerable by his ir her own misguided, self-serving fabrications. Cry wolf 3 times and when a real wolf attacks, nobody helps. This simple postulate applies in everything. so when I am called a conspiracy theorist, I realize I am being assailed by a conspiracy theory theorist, that is totally ignorant of almost everything. And JR, basically called flat earth believers, conspiracy theorists. There is only one “side” of politics that runs away from a fight with the term “conspiracy theory”. Sad to be part of a losing “theory” that cannot present decent, honest arguments. I could not live as such a sub-human. I adjust when faced with reality. After all, isn’t the survival of the “fittest” idea, in reality, survival of those who adapt to change? I did believe the earth was a globe. Not sure now, especially since the biggest argument is to use distraction and insult, calling plane earth believers conspiracy theorists.